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I thought this was an old argument, but apparently I was wrong. I still hear about it when I'm on forums, both within and outside of DA.

So, according to both slash/het fans and non slash/het fans, there are two different types of Megatrons. There is the Perv Megatron and the "real" Megatron. From what I've been seeing and hearing, I think this probably applies to the Transformers Animated series more than the other TF Universes.

Anyway, when my friends ask me about this argument, I have trouble answering because I have mixed feelings on the issue. Unless you haven't seen my works or some of the TF art I've faved, then you would know I'm a slash/yaoi/boysLOVE fan and Megatron is no exception. Still, I have probably a different viewpoint on the argument then most would guess. Hopefully in this mini-essay, I can explain my view.

To those who are "anti-Perv Megs," I actually agree with you to a certain degree. I actually don't care or even like the "Megatron the Perv" concept at all. I think it destroys his image completely. The Megatron I grew up to love and adore would rather beat Optimus to scrap instead of steal his panties, which robots do not have. I love AutobotV's work - I watch her on DA and she's one of my favorite authors on FanFiction - but I have to strongly disagree with her "Megatron the Perv" series because I highly doubt Megatron is even REMOTELY interested in any bot's non-existent underwear.

Now, as a slasher, I do pair Megatron (any universe) with other male canon characters, but I try to keep him in character as much as possible. For example, I never make him the bottom EVER, with the exception of Lugnut, but that's only because I feel as though Megatron would only ever interface with him if Lugnut were to lose it and rape him. Also, making him bottom for me makes him very OOC. This is Megatron we're talking about, the evil and brutal tyrant that has killed hundreds – maybe more like thousands – of Cybertronians with his bare servos. I highly doubt he would bottom for anyone. He has WAY too much power and pride to be the uke. PERIOD.  

Now, onto what I suppose are the most controversial pairings - Megatron/Starscream and Megatron/Optimus - which are probably two of the most popular slash pairings.

Let's start with Megatron/Starscream relationship. Both make valuable arguments and I will present both in summarized versions.  

The anti-slash argument states this: "Megatron hates Starscream and vice versa, and the tyrant only keeps him as his second command to keep an optic on him so he can't do anything to overthrow him." Well, it's an obvious "DERP!" that the two hate each other. Also, that is true with the whole saying "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer."  Now, just speaking G1 here, killing Starscream would most likely have the other seekers - mainly Skywarp and Thundercracker - put him on their hit list. Those three are basically like family, both in fangirl and canon perspective. I highly doubt Megatron wants to lose some of his best air warriors.

The slash argument states this: "Megatron has interesting wordplay with the seeker and if he really wanted to stop him from trying to overpower him, he'd just kill him. But come on - the seeker's still alive after how many threats?!" It is true with the word play; if you listen to what they say to each other and you were to say it yourself with someone else, you can find the innuendos with the lines. Again, speaking for Animated series this time, Starscream's "family" didn't show up until Season 2 and unlike G1, they didn't really have each other's back, so to speak. So, with that being said, yes - it IS a wonder on why Megatron would keep the seeker alive when I'm pretty sure he has other soldiers at hand to be Air Commander. Shockwave would probably make a better SIC than Starscream anyway.

Now, as for my position on this pairing… I don't mind either way. I like both fluff and angst in terms of slash. In the end though, I actually prefer Megatron beating the living shit out of him rather than him "making love" to him, only because I find it when Starscream fails quite amusing, especially in the G1 series. I do write about this pairing and I did make a story about them involving krazifreak's Kittycon concept, but that was an AU. If I were to ever write a fic about them in another universe like Armada or Animated (which I probably will one day), if there is any "slash" to it, it will probably be about how much Starscream hates Megatron because of what he does to him in addition to beating him. I find if Megatron does interface with him, it's more so to humiliate him and degrade him more so than it is because he desires the seeker or because he needs to relieve himself.

The other slash pairing, which is my OTP, is Megatron/Optimus. Now for me, the slash argument is this: "In TFA, Megatron should and could easily overpower little ol' Prime, but it always seems that he fails. In all of the other series, their word play is just too damn hot and steamy to ignore."

The non-slash argument is sweet and simple: "the two of them are ENEMIES and Optimus is with Elita-1, for Primus's sake!"

To address the non-slash argument, I totally see what you're saying. They are enemies and Elita-1 is indeed his mate. Well for me, I don't like Elita and as for being enemies, they remind me of Megatron and Starscream – I love their wordplay, both as enemies and as mates (obviously the mate is the slasher's perspective, but you get my drift). I find Megatron obsessed with killing Optimus, just like the Joker is about killing Batman – it's unhealthy and creepy. Megatron always seems to be dead-set on getting Prime alone and off-lining him for good. Now, as a slasher, I find Megatron wanting to make Optimus suffer before death and what better way do that than with forced interfacing? Also, Megatron and Optimus seem to get along all right once they have a common enemy. That there is like a red flag to slash fans like myself, making me through in the word "love" into their relationship. Again, I like both fluff and angst in regards to this pairing. However, I still refuse to believe that Megatron is out to rape Optimus and steal his panties. No.

Now, some anti-perv people argue that Megatron isn't even remotely interested in even having mate. I have to disagree with this, but only because I highly doubt Megatron was the way he is now. I'm even writing about it in a TFA fic where he had a mate when the war first started to back up my view. People aren't born to behave like tyrants – they're made into ones.

Slashers like to argue than it's FAN art/fiction. It's what they want to happen. Hate to burst the fun fan bubble, but no matter how much the term FAN means, you still have to abide by the rules of whatever fandom you're writing about. Even if you make an AU, you still have to be true to the character's personalities, otherwise it's just insulting. They also argue that Megatron's voice adds to his perv charm. While I must agree that Megatron's voice in TFA is VERY orgasmic, I don't think it attributes to him being a pervert.

All in all, my point of is that in this particular topic on the left-wing Perv supporters and the right-wing Tyrant supporters, I'm pretty moderate leaning more right than left.  I am ALL for the tyrannical Megatron because he is just awesome that way, but I don't mind him being a bit ecchi, but only in the sense of angst or fluff. I'm not for him being perverted and stalking bots to rape them.
My some of my friends asked me about how felt about the Perv Megatron vs. the "Real" Megatron argument. According to them, my view isn't very clear to them.

So... This is pretty much my stance on how I feel about Megatron's character, both in the perv and tyrant aspect of him.

This has been on my mind for a while, but I felt like it was time to give out my perspective, even if I have people who disagree with me. ^^
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PDJ004 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I absolutely agree with you. I would prefer the tyrant Megatron rather than him being a pervert.

I do enjoy looking at :iconautobotv:'s work, and since I like them, I'm not going to be too hard on her. I'm going to be honest, I think the animated version of Megatron is extremely handsome but overall, I can't really see him being a pervert. :hmm: That is definitely out of character for him. Megatron is a tyrannical leader who's only goal is to take over Cybertron and I thought the goal of him taking Optimus Prime and his panties is funny but odd. I like the pairing too but placing this in the Animated version makes it seem out of place. Megatron can be sadistic but I can't see him as a stalker and/or a rapist. I'm sure he'll be able to find someone he can be with though. :shrug: Plus I also agree that Optimus Prime should be with Elita-1.

Unlike the other version of Transformers, this is the first time Megatron doesn't know who Optimus Prime is until the last episode (and to be honest, that frustrates me :rage:). So I figured it would be more unlikely for him to be with Optimus Prime. I see him more likely with Starscream for obvious reasons. The only thing all versions of Transformers have in common is that Optimus Prime and Megatron will try to kill each other until one or both of them end up dead.
xLosersRuleTheWorldx Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Haha, I'm glad. :)

Same. I love the TFA version of Megatron... very sexy. But I am not a fan of her pervert series, though I am still a fan of her works overall. I simply just dislike one of the things she does. Though I do ship TFA Megatron/Optimus (not as hardcore as to though), putting him as a stalker or rapist... No. Not my thing.

Yeah... TFA was kinda blah in terms of the set up, Megatron not even know who Optimus really is with Ultra Magnus as the head honcho. Not to say I hated it, but... It just wasn't the same. :|
PDJ004 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah I almost forgot Ultra Magnus was the Autobot leader in the Animated version. I thought that was out of place as well. Transformers Animated is fun to watch, and it's one of my favorite versions of the show, but it does have flaws.

I love your fics of Megatron & Optimus Prime. :love: They are fun to read and I read them over and over again. :lol: My favorite ones are the Geishaformers. If I could, I'd read them all day.
xLosersRuleTheWorldx Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It was a good version, but I think all the versions have flaws lol.

Haha, thank you! :blush:
PDJ004 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
i agree :D and you are very welcome :huggle: :heart:
severiner Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2012
Wow After reading this I believe that my stance is similar to yours.
I like him in character but that does not mean that there can be no slash.
I also like to think that he has some code of honour and as such would not participate in rape.
I have read a number of stories that show this quite well.
I also like to think of him as the Lord High Protector and hence much of his attitude is explained.
From there he is either corrupted by power or trying to do his best for his people without a Prime by his side.
In my opinion the Protector is not meant to be a civilian ruler, he is a warlord and rules the armies.
The Prime is not meant to fight, he is the spiritual heart and civilian leader.

That is just what I believe and can be seen in some of my stories.
I just cannot see him as pure evil, to me such a thing does not exist there are only shades of grey, like in this argument there is no true right or wrong.
xLosersRuleTheWorldx Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you very much for reading this. Glad to know similar views can be made here. :)
severiner Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012
DrillBoysGirl Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012
I agree. Megatron is a tyrant Decepticon Lord; however, I'm sure he wouldn't mind a mate or a sex-partner.

No matter the tyrant, they have physical needs, but that doesn't make him a pervert.

The word play between both G1 Mega/Star and Animated Mega/Op does lend to something....else....but I honestly don't see how some people put them in the situations they do. It makes no sense for the character.
xLosersRuleTheWorldx Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly. It's not like he's 100 percent sparkless (or lacking a libido).

Lol, it is something else. :)

I'm guilty of that too. ^^; From my perspective, it's just one of those "Because I can" type things. :shrug:
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